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590 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES
† Chairman: At present I want to put before you what the suggestion is. Will you therefore please strike out the words “be placed under Provincial management”, and insert instead the words “no longer be recruited on an All-India basis” ?
“and we do not think it necessary to make any special recommendation with regard to these two services.
“ we recommend that recruitment on an All-India basis should continue for the Indian Civil Service and the Indian Police Service (Mr. Shiva Rao lissents—)” I do not know whether he is alone or whether there is anyone with him.
Dr. Ambedkar: My resolution is that except for the European element in hese two Services, the rest should be provincialised.
Chairman: I think that will have to be separately put in.
“(Mr. Shiva Rao dissent from this conclusion, and would desire that all Services be provincialised forthwith).” I suggest that we add here this : “ some members are of opinion that recruitment for judicial offices should no longer be made from the Indian Civil Service.”
‡ Dr. Ambedkar: I am in favour of both the Services being on a Provincial basis, but I am prepared to make an exception in favour of the European element in those two Services.
Mr. Zafrullah Khan: I agree with Dr. Ambedkar.
Sardar Sampuran Singh: I endorse the same view.
Chairman: I am much obliged. That will certainly go in.
Dr. Ambedkar: On page 2, in the paragraph beginning “No doubt such government if it requires”, and so on, you have mentioned the question of the reorganisation and readjustment of the departments of Public Services, etc. May I know whether you will add also the question of the basis of salary, in view of the discussions that took place this morning ?
Chairman: That comes within those words, I think.
Fourth Sitting—9th January 1931
§Lord Zetland: No. You cannot withdraw the jurisdiction of the local Government, because the local Government admittedly must be supreme over its officers, but it could be laid down that that should be the practice which it is desirable to pursue. That, Sir, I think covers what I want to put before the Sub-Committee. The main point is to secure that the powers now vested in the Inspector-General by the Police Act of 1861 should be retained, and I put forward various other suggestions, such as the formation of a Police Council in a Province for the consideration of the Sub-Committee.
†Proceedings of Sub-Committee No. VIII (Services), p. 128.
‡ Ibid., p. 132.
¶Indian Civil Service and Indian Police Service.
§Proceedings of Sub-Committee No. VIII (Services), pp. 181-82.