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EVIDENCE : RIGHT HON. SIR SAMUEL HOARE AND OTHERS 769
Sir Tej Bahadur Sapru: Yes. Treaties are part of the municipal law everywhere.
†8102. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: May I draw the attention of the Secretary of State to the fact that under Proposal 70 of the White Paper, the Governor has the special responsibility to secure the execution of orders lawfully issued by the Governor-General ?
Sir Samuel Hoare : Yes.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: If the Governor-General issued any orders with respect to finance which required the Provincial Governments to execute them, the Governor would see that they were executed ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes; in the field of Federal taxation that would be so.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Any orders issued by the Federation which required that they were to be executed by the Provincial Government, there is a special responsibility on the Governor to see that those orders are executed ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes, Orders issued by the Governor-General.
Sir Hari Singh Gour: Lawfully issued.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Lawfully issued, of course. Another question. In that section of the White Paper proposals which deals with the administrative relations of the Provinces and the Centre—I am speaking offhand—I think provision is made that whether the Provincial agency will be utilised by the Centre in carrying out the administration of Central subjects is a matter for the Province : it may employ its own agency ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes, I have always hoped, judging from the experience of other Federations, that we should duplicate as little as possible administrations, and speaking generally, it is much better that the Provincial administration should carry out the directions of the Federation within the Federal field rather than that you should duplicate these administrations all over India.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: What I was trying to point out was this. that if the Provincial Governments turned out to be recalcitrant and not amenable to the control of the Central Government, the Centre is not bound to employ the agency of the Province and can employ their own agency in the administration of Central subjects ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: That is so.
‡8138. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: I want to suggest that the standard of administration in Bengal is low because Bengal has not been able to raise sufficient revenue by reason of the Permanent Settlement. It is another way of stating the same thing ?
Sir Samuel Hoare : It is one of the reasons, but we have to accept the fact that the Permanent Settlement is there.
†Minutes of Evidence, Vol. II-B, 27th July 1933, p. 945.
‡ Ibid., 28th July 1933, p. 990.