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EVIDENCE : RIGHT HON. SIR SAMUEL HOARE AND OTHERS 787
†13,530. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: I want to ask you one or two questions to clear up the financial side of this problem. I want to ask a question, first of all, with regard to financing what are called the partially excluded areas ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes.
13,531. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: I take it that there would be a common budget, the provincial budget, in which the moneys provided for the partially excluded area would also be included ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes.
13,532. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: In that case, the whole budget, of course, would be open to discussion by the Legislature ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes, subject to paragraph 109.
13,533. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: I am coming to that. It is only when the Governor exercises his special responsibility under paragraph 70 that they would go outside the purview of the Legislature ? Is not that so ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes, and paragraph 109.
13,534. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: But ordinarily they would be part of the provincial budget ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes.
13,535. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: I want to ask a similar question with regard to the wholly excluded areas. I find that the special responsibility of the Governor under paragraph 70( f ), is confined to partially excluded areas only?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes.
13,536. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: That means that for the administration of the wholly excluded areas the Governor could not draw upon the provincial funds?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Dr. Ambedkar’s very acute mind has discovered a gap in the White Paper. That is so.
13,537. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: He could not draw upon them ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: As drafted he could not draw upon the provincial funds. It is an omission that we propose to set right in any final draft.
13,538. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Another paragraph is 49 to which I also want to draw your attention in this connection. There sub-clause (v) says that the expenditure required for excluded areas shall be the special responsibility of the Governor-General ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: Yes.
13,539. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Do I take it that in the administration of the wholly excluded area the Governor, who presumably would be the agent of the Governor-General, would have to depend upon such moneys as may be supplied to him by the Governor-General in the exercise of his special responsibility ?
Sir Samuel Hoare: No; the Governor himself will ask for the money from the Province.
† Minutes of Evidence, Vol. II-B, 17th October 1933, p. 1218.