248 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES
It is the desire of the House that the next motion should be reached. It is for you to consider.
Sir Cowasjee Jehangir : No, Sir, it is not the desire of the House, at any rate I wish to hear him.
Mr. Deputy President (Mr. Akhil Chandra Datta): Order, order.
Sir Cowasjee Jehangir : It is not the desire of the House, Sir, You speak in the name of the House, Sir. I say so far as this part of the House is concerned, we desire to hear him.
Dr. P. N. Banerjea : There are other Honourable Members who desire that he should conclude his speech.
Sir Cowasjee Jehangir : But we want to hear him.
Mr. Deputy President (Mr. Akhil Chandra Datta): You do not constitute the whole House.
Mr. Abdul Qaiyum : That is right.
The Honourable Sir Sultan Ahmed : After all, Sir, this side of the House wants to hear him.
Mr. Deputy President (Mr. Akhil Chandra Datta): Where is the trouble ? I am telling over and over again that it is not a ruling from the Chair. It is only a request from the Chair to the Honourable Member, and it is for him to decide whether he wishes to comply with it or not.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : Sir, the next point which Mr. Joshi made was with regard to Technical Personnel Ordinance. He said that this Technical Personnel Ordinance has in it the principle of inequality of treatment between employer and the employees. The point that is sought to be made out there was that under the Technical Personnel Ordinance, an employee is not free to resign from his employment, while under the same Ordinance an employer is free to discharge an employee. Sir, I should like to state the true position as may be found from a reading of this Ordinance. The true position is this : that an employee is not required to obtain permission of his employer if he wants to resign. What is required by the Ordinance is that he should ask permission of the Tribunal if he wants to resign. On that point, I think Mr. Joshi is somewhat misinformed. Then, Sir, with regard to the power of the employer to discharge, the position again is this. That, as a rule, he is not allowed to discharge or dismiss an employee unless he has obtained permission of the Tribunal. To that there is undoubtedly one exception and that exception is that in case