968 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES
My amendment No. 134 I have moved in order to make it quite clear and not to lead to interpretation of the words “any matter”. I have now specifically mentioned that these may “include matters specified in clauses (b), (c), (d) and (e) of sub-paragraph (3) of paragraph 1 of this Schedule,” and these will be referred to the Commission. That is the purport of my amendment No. 134.
Pandit Hirday Nath Kunzru : I understand the purport of the amendment all right and I am well aware of the contents of clauses (b), (c), (d) and (e) of the paragraph but what I say is that the Commission that will be appointed to deal with any matter connected with the administration of the autonomous regions does not seem to me to have the power of reporting that an area already included in a tribal area may be excluded from it and amalgamated with an ordinary administered area.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : My honourable Friend ought to refer to (d) of paragraph (3) of the said table.
Pandit Hirday Nath Kunzru : That has been removed by your own amendment.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : That I think will have to be done by Parliament by law.
Pandit Hirday Nath Kunzru : Without having the considered recommendations of the Commission. Parliament should have before it the report of the Commission but now it will have to deal with the matter entirely on the strength of such knowledge as it may have.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : This is a matter which is not within the competence of the Governor. As passed, the exclusion of any area from the tribal areas is a matter which is taken out of the purview of the Governor. It is left to Parliament to decide. This Commission is merely to guide the Governor to deal with matters which are mentioned in clauses (b), (c), (d) and (e) of sub-para. (3). Any matter which is outside it is a matter for Parliament. Parliament may appoint a Commission independently of this Commission and then legislate.
Prof. Shibban Lal Saksena : There is no provision for it.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : No provision is necessary. Parliament may act upon the advice of the Assam Ministry. If Parliament thinks that that advice is not independent and that there should be independent evidence, Parliament is free to appoint a Commission and make an enquiry of its own.