Hindu Code Bill (Clause by Clause Discussion) - Page 16

DR. AMBEDKAR AND THE HINDU CODE BILL 793

Mr. Speaker : He is arguing and he is entitled to argue ; let us not be impatient with the people who differ.

Shri Sonavane (Bombay) : What is his point of order ?

Mr. Speaker : The hon. Member should hear what he is saying.

Shri Sonavane : Is he allowed to argue it ?

Mr. Speaker : I cannot stop a Member, unless I know what he is going to speak, and I cannot know that unless he speaks out. So in order to know what the hon. Member is going to say. I must hear him, and that is the only democratic way in which we can go on.

Shrimati Durgabai : But, will he be allowed to refer to certain clauses of the Bill?

Mr. Speaker : The hon. Member knows that every person who wishes to argue his case is at liberty to speak ; of course, if I find an hon. Member is abusing the liberty or is repeating himself I shall certainly stop him.

Shri Raj Bahadur (Rajasthan) : Sir, I would like to know by way of a ruling from you whether the hon. Member can use such derogatory terms as he did, when referring to certain provisions of the Constitution. He said that “subject to public morality, health, etc.” are meaningless terms. Can he make such observations ?

Shri R. K. Chaudhari : Sir, I submit that when a point of order is raised and when the Speaker is listening to that point of order, there should be no interruptions from any hon. Member.

Mr. Speaker : Order, order.

Shri Naziruddin Ahmed : I submitted that the words in clause

(1) of article 25—“Subject to public order, morality and health” do not really mean anything serious. I think they are the usual dreamy kind of safeguards which have no legal significance. The article further says :

“... all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practise and propagate religion.”

With regard to the subject of marriage, it is considered by all devout Hindus that marriage is part of their religious profession and practice. So far as I know, a Hindu thinks of marriage as part of his religion, and if a man has no son, he, it is believed, goes to a particular region in hell.

Shri Tyagi : Order, order, I have no son.