DR. AMBEDKAR AND THE HINDU CODE BILL 1111
of supermen and giants like Jaimini. Shankar and Kumarila—I do not wish to use any adjectives of praise for them because it will be difficult to find suitable words—and on the other hand, it contains another system which is so obtuse, which is so crude, to say nothing worse, that it would refuse to see or understand anything which is not strictly before its physical eyes. The poor Charvaka, with the palm of his hand up before him, would refuse to understand that the back side of his hand also exists because it would not be pratyaksha. . . .
Dr. M. M. Das : On a point of order, we have not come here to hear lectures on Hindu philosophy and ancient rishis.. . .
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Order, order. I find the hon. Member is very impatient. He must have consideration for the other side of the view. I never expected that the hon. Member would go on interrupting. I repeatedly say that this is a contentious matter and we are allowing sufficient time. I am also alive to the fact that a number of hon. Members have spoken. I am not concluding the debate now. The less the number of interruptions the greater the chance that he will finish it early. Otherwise, he will demand another day.
Pandit Malaviya : I was only pointing out the wide diversity and catholicity of philosophical and methaphysical thought prevalent among the Hindus. I wish there were no need at all for anybody to talk of the philosophical side of things. I wish one could feel that it was unnecessary. But, from such remarks it seems it is unfortunately necessary. What I was mentioning was that even in the Darshanas, while we have the pure Vedant on the one hand, we have the drunken reveller of a Charvaka philosopher, indulging in the five makaras ! I shall not go into those five makaras ......
Some Hon. Members : Go on. go on.
Pandit Malaviya : .........because apart from my own reasons of decency, probably I may take it that some of even those Members who may not be deeply interested in philosophical thought might be familiar with them !
Mr. Deputy Speaker : How are they useful for the discussion on this subject ?
Pandit Malaviya: What I was trying to point out was............
Dr. Ambedkar: I submit the makaras are very useful.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Will this in any way corrupt the makaras ?