Hindu Code Bill (Clause by Clause Discussion) - Page 394

DR. AMBEDKAR AND THE HINDU CODE BILL 1171

Shri Syamnanda Sahaya : If he goes on like that, the situation may become worse.

Dr. Ambedkar : I am entitled to express my opinion.

Mr. Chairman : Order, order.

Shri R. K. Chaudhari : Why don’t you ask the Minister to sit down?

Mr. Chairman : What is the meaning of this ? There is a regular uproar. Hon. Members must maintain order.

Shri R. K. Chaudhari : If the Hon. Minister does not sit down, does that mean order ? You only want to control us; not others.

Dr. Ambedkar : My point is this (Interruptions ).

Sardar B. S. Man : I take his retort in a sporting spirit. His speech is equally repugnant to us today.

Dr. Ambedkar : I am prepared to accept that.

Mr. Chairman : All that I can say is that Hon. Members should have left it to the Hon. Members concerned to whom the Minister’s remark refers.

Dr. Ambedkar : My point is very simple. There can be no dispute that Indians as such are excluding the Muslims ...

Shri Sondhi (Punjab) : They are not Indinas. Is that so ?

Dr. Ambedkar : Let me go on in that way, because I do not find exact qualifying words. We non-Muslims, so to say, are not a very united family. I do not think it is desirable to take an unrealistic view and say that we are all one. We are not. But I do say that we ought to make an attempt to come together as far as we possibly can, and we ought not to sow the seeds of discord all the time. When anything of a unifying nature comes before the House, if somebody gets up and says. “Well, we do not belong to this group and we do not want to be governed by this law” ...

Sardar Hukam Singh (Punjab) : Why did you not appeal to the President when he was making a declaration as to who would be the Scheduled Castes ? He has made that distinction.

Dr. Ambedkar : It may have been done because of his generous spirit, if you will remember what happened.

Now, that is what I do no like. In my judgement, we ought all of us to make a very sincere attempt to come together, at any rate. Each one of us may have our religious beliefs. One may believe in a God and one may believe in a soul. Those are spiritual matters. But is it not desirable that notwithstanding the differences that we