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1198 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES

Therefore it is very necessary to understand the significance of the word “custom” and see how it affects our principles. For us to know the full meaning of the word it is neccessary that we realise how we are altering the entire provisions of the Code, when we define “customs” in the manner proposed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker : The hon. Member is sufficiently an elderly Parliamentarian to know things but I want to understand things for myself. When individual items such as marriage or divorce come up we shall see what further changes have to be made in respect of that particular portion. We might say “Notwithstanding this, this shall not be allowed, etc.” We are now on the definition and let us not enlarge the scope and discuss every one of the entries and see how such and such custom will work hardship. That would mean another general discussion.

Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : I understood you Sir, even without the exposition which you have been kind enough to make. I quite see the force of the point you have made. You are here only defining customs but whatever definition is given here will apply to all those customs which are allowed in respect to certain matters.

Mr. Deputy Speaker : Not necessarily. With regard to the Sikhs or some others we might say “Notwithstading, this custom shall not prevail”.

Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : What is the meaning of our saying that customs in regard to the incidents of marriage will prevail ? It means that a certain kind of rule shall prevail and that rule or principle we are defining here, whether it should be such as is opposed to public policy but all the same one which has got the force of law.

Mr. Deputy Speaker : As to how custom ought to be recognised, if hon. Members want to impose restrictions it is certainly within the scope without going into the details of the various customs prevailing.

Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : I am not on details at the moment. When the occasion arises we shall see whether the custom should be allowed to prevail in respect to those matters. Here I am making only general observations and submitting to Dr. Ambedkar…..

Mr. Deputy Speaker : The general observation that there shall be no customs and so forth could come at the first and second stage.

Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava: I am not saying that no custom should be allowed. I am only saying that he should not be very liberal