Hindu Code Bill (Clause by Clause Discussion) - Page 531

1308 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES

Shri Naziruddin Ahmad : All our points have not been dealt by the Hon. Minister. What becomes of those amendments which we have moved? Would they be expunged ……….

Shri T. N. Singh : On a point of personal explanation, The Hon. Law Minister says that I urged that each and every one of the customs should be scrupulously observed. I think that he did not probably understand my Hindi …………

Dr. Ambedkar: It is quite possible.

Shri T. N. Singh : What I said was that all customs should not be lightly abrogated by a law. What I want ……….

Dr. Ambedkar: On that point, I am in agreement.

Shri T. N. Singh: I want to ask if the Hon. Law Minister has got any detailed list of the customs prevalent in the country. In the ignorance of all the customs of the country to say that all customs shall not be applicable, is not proper. That is exactly what I said.

Dr. C. D. Pande : One thing has been said, Sir ……….

Dr. Ambedkar: You can come to my room and say that.

Dr. C. D. Pande : Dr. Ambedkar has said this in Parliament and I wish it should be clarified in Parliament. I did not say that Parliament had no authority to make laws for the customary things. I appealed to Parliament not to touch their laws. That is a quite different position than what the Law Minister makes out.

Mr. Deputy Speaker : I shall put the clause and the amendments in this order.

Shri Syamnandan Sahaya: Before you put them, Sir I submit it is

1-15 already. As I said, this is a very vital clause where the texts, customs and usages are being abrogated. Therefore, we desire to divide on the amendments that have been moved. It will take a long time. Therefore, I submit that the actual motion may be put on another day whatever it.

Some hon. Members : Yes, yes.

Some hon. Members : No, no.

Dr. Ambedkar: It will not take more than five minutes.

Some hon. Members : No, no.

Capt. A. P. Singh : There are so many amendments ; it will take four hours ( Interruption ).

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, order. What is going to be gained ……….