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as “ all and sundry ”. I do not know if it is quite proper. It may not be unparliamentary, but it is not dignified, I believe. So I request you to give your views, if not your ruling on this point.
Mr. Speaker : I do not give that expression any vulgar meaning. And he did not mean Members of Parliament. So many people come before the Ministers over this and that, and the words “all and sundry” do not apply solely to Members of Parliament. At any rate no hon. member need think that the cap fits him.
Shri B. Das : Sir, the Hon. Health Minister who controls the Delhi Municipal bodies has not been present here to assist us. Could we not decide this question later with her assistance also ?
Mr. Speaker : It was not expected that, after informal conferences and after postponing the question for the purpose of the conference, this point will be again discussed. I have been expecting a spirit of give and take, just a little giving in here and there. After all, humanly it is impossible to do absolute justice to everyone. Let us try to do as much justice as we can. And so I proceed further. Now how does the position stand ? Do I put the amendment to the House ?
Dr. Ambedkar : It is suggested that instead of the word “elected” we may have the words “Members other than officials”.
Shri Deshbandhu Gupta : I accept this change.
Mr. Speaker : Let there be no more discussion, but let us get through with the Bill. Otherwise hon. Members will not get sufficient time tomorrow for the other Bills. My difficulty comes now. How am I to put the amendment ?
Order, order, let there be less noise in the House.
The Minister of Transport and Railways (Shri Gopalaswami) : I would like to suggest to the Law Minister the desirability of omitting the words “such as”. I think we ought to say “Members of Municipal Committees District Board and notified area Committees”. If we put in the words “such as” it would mean as if there were other categories of local bodies in which you want to refer.