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it would be a handicap for them if they are not included. As we know, these are either landless workers or labourers. The Banjaras move from one State to an adjoining State in search of employment and they eke out their livelihood. It would be a difficulty for them if they are deprived of their representation and the other concessions which they may otherwise be entitled to enjoy. Then there are one or two other entries. One such is No. 19 under Delhi—Julaha (Weaver). Then under No. 14 under Himachal Pradesh it is given as Kabirpanthi or Julaha or Keer. These Kabirpanthis and the Julahas are two different castes. They are not one and the same.
Dr. Ambedkar: Sometimes, it is one caste with two names.
Sardar Hukam Singh : That is not so here. These are two distinct and separate castes. Therefore difficulty would arise. Then again, there is entry No. 23 under Himachal Pradesh—Ramdasi or Ravidasi but under Delhi entry No. 32 reads Ram Dasia. I would like to know from the Hon. Minister whether Ramdasi and Ravidasi are two different castes and if they are—as in my opinion they certainly are—then why should that be omitted from Himachal Pradesh ? In entry No. 33 under Delhi it is given as Ravidasi or Raidasi but under Himachal Pradesh against entry No. 23 it is given only as Ramdasi or Ravidasi. So, there is a confusion. I am not aware of the actual denominations by which they may be called, but there is certainly some confusion and those castes have not been included in Himachal Pradesh under those two separate heads. My only point is that these provinces, Punjab, PEPSU, Himachal Pradesh and Delhi are contiguous areas and people keep on moving from one State to another in search of livelihood. Therefore if these poor classes are not included in the lists of all the States, they would be deprived of a concession which the Constitution wanted to give them and the whole object of ours would be frustrated. Therefore, I want to draw the special attention of the Hon. Minister to this matter. I had sent an amendment on this point this morning, copy of which he would by now have received. I would request him to give it his earnest attention.
With these few words, Sir, I support this motion.