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followed me or understood me. It must have been my fault that I was not as clear as I should have been. I shall therefore explain the position succinctly once again. With regard to office of profit, we have to determine what is an office of profit and what is not an office of profit. As I told the House earlier, Government does not propose to take a purely technical view of office of profit as they do in England where the law says that such and such is an office of profit, and whether that is any office of profit or not or whether any particular individual who is holding that office of profit draws any money or not, it is for the purpose of the law an office of profit the holder of which is disqualified. It is the intention of the Government not to import that rule in our Constitution and unnecessarily disqualify Members of Parliament under a technical view of what is called an office of profit. I think the House will remember that. We are going, as I said, to take a realistic view of what is an office of profit. In coming to the conclusion as to whether any particular office is an office of profit or not, we have to divide the payment made to the Member into two separate categories. One is payment to a Member which includes nothing more than what may be called actual out of pocket expenses : travelling, living and so on.

Pandit Kunzru (Uttar pradesh) : What else ?

Dr. Ambedkar: I am coming to it. I am giving an illustration. I do not know whether you are familiar with it, but I think it is an illustration which is well known

3-00 P . M . to many who attended the Round Table Conference. The second category would include what I would call actual expenses incurred by the member in order to be present at the committee to discharge his functions and something in addition as a recompense for the loss that he incurs by giving up some other business in order to attend to this business. I do not know whether my hon. friend was a Member of the Round Table Conference, but it is a fact and I happen to know it because I was a Member ; the allowances paid to Members were divided into two categories. One category was called subistence allowance which meant 22s. or 21s. per day. The other category was called merely ‘allowance’ which was