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to Poona and its inhabitants. Let us not talk nonsense. Let us see plain things as they are. Why not allow Marathwada to have a separate province or State and let Marathwada rule itself? It knows its interests best. I have been connected with Marathwada for the simple reason that I established a college there. But it is not a flourishing college and I am every year bearing a huge loss. I know that the Marathwada people would look after themselves much better than any of the Bombay people who talk about them. Particularly there is no education there at all. There is the danger that Marathwada may be attached to the Poona University. God only knows what will happen.
Shri B. B. Sharma (Uttar Pradesh) : So you believe in God?
Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I cannot hear what you say. If you want a reply from me, you must talk audibly.
Shri B. B. Sharma: Whose God is that ?
Shri Jaspat Roy Kapoor (Uttar Pradesh) : Don’t hear inconvenient questions.
Shri B. B. Sharma: Who is your God ?
Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: To me the people are God.
Sir, in the case of Marathwada it is absolutely necessary that they should have a separate autonomous body to look after their education and they should not be tied down hand and foot to the Poona University. We won’t have that at all.
There is one other point to which I would like to refer. As I have said, I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that there are many holes in this federation and it may crack. We are a cracking society. We have no union. We have no unity and any time this whole thing may crack. Therefore, we should, in time, take steps to see that it does not crack. I suggested one way and that was to reduce the northern provinces to smaller areas so that the southern people may not suffer any heavy pressure. I also suggest another remedy and that remedy is to have two capitals for this country. I suggest that