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EVIDENCE : SIR JOHN P. THOMPSON AND OTHERS 691
- Sir Tej Bahadur Sapru : May I point out that in point of fact Land Revenue is not raised by Executive Order ? What he is probably thinking of is that Land Revenue settlements are effected by Executive Order ?
Sir John P. Thompson : Yes.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : Yes ; and a recommendation was made that all these finances which are raised by Executive Order should no longer be raised by Executive Order but by legislation ?
Sir John P. Thompson : I do not know that.
Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : That has not been carried into effect.
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Sir Charles Innes, K.C.S.L. C.L.E.
*5161. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : Sir Charles, you laid considerable emphasis on Second Chamoers ?
Sir Charles Innes : Yes.
- Dr. B. R Ambedkar : The reason that you gave was that it would mitigate the necessity of the constant use of the special powers ?
Sir Charles Innes : No. I do not know that I said it would mitigate the necessity. I said that it would reinforce the special powers, and I hoped that the existence of the Second Chamber would make it unnecessary, or make it necessary very rarely, to use the special powers which nobody wants to be used.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : It is not your position that you would substitute Second Chambers for the special powers ?
Sir Charles Innes : No.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : The second question I want to ask you is this : I think this morning you stated that there was nothing unusual in these special responsibilities, and that you found them in some of the Constitutions of the Dominions ?
Sir Charles Innes : I said there was nothing new in safeguards. I think those were my exact words.
- Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I want to put to you this : Is not there this difference between whatever safeguards there might be in the Constitutions of the Dominions and the provisions in the White Paper ? I am sorry I cannot put the question in a short form, because I have to give some explanation of the position as I understand it before I can put this question. I think under responsible government it is never understood (at least, I do not understand) that the Governor is absolutely bound by the advice given by the Ministry. He can refuse to take their advice if he thinks that he need not take it, but when I think the next step that he can take is to form another Ministry which will support him in the particular view which he takes. If that Ministry does not take the view that he takes he can dissolve the Legislative Council and have a new Legislature elected, and if he then
***** Minutes of Evidence, Vol. II-A, 6th July 1933, pp. 573-74